Review: Listening to the Denafrips Pontus DAC

OK, all of that tech stuff in the first part of this review is interesting, but I am a “hook it up and listen to it” kind of guy. So, let’s get to it and listen to the Pontus DAC.

Getting Ready to Listen to the Pontus DAC

After about 150 hours of run time in my Shop/Test setup, I moved the Pontus DAC to my main system and connected it to my streamer. I alternated between an Aurender and an Innuos. I used my preferred Triode Wire Labs Split Power and Data USB cables. In both cases, playing off the hard drive was superior to any streaming.  I tried the different digital inputs on the Pontus DAC, and I preferred the USB input in my system. Your results may vary. By all means, be sure to experiment. Unfortunately, I could not try the iS2 input.

Because it is a true balanced design, I opted to use the balanced analog outputs. I connected my Triode Labs Wire Balanced Spirit II cables and alternately my Audience Balanced Front Row cables to my Vinnie Rossi L2i-SE integrated amp. Once I made the connections, I sat back, picked up the iPad, and fired up some music.

Listening Notes

Three hours later, I began to make some listening notes. The first note I wrote was “digital calm”. I never expected to be able to write this phrase. It’s an oxymoron that belongs with other classics like jumbo shrimp, an original copy, and my favorite, peacekeeper missile.

Let’s get this out of the way right now. The Pontus DAC from Denafrips has changed the way I think about digitally encoded music. You see, one of the main attractions that analog sources have for me is their sense of overall calm. My mind relaxes as I listen.  Digital sources, on the other hand, typically set me on edge. Or to put it another way, vinyl invites me to listen while digital audio files typically make me listen.

The Pontus DAC is one of the first current production DACs under 15K I have heard that has some of the calm characteristics I hear in analog. In fact, for the first three hours, I didn’t take any listening notes. I was enjoying the music so much.

There was a familiar analog-like sound coming from the Pontus DAC. If I could have put it under a microscope, I suspect I would have found a few strands of vinyl DNA in the unit. The typical two-dimensional, homogenized, and glaring diorama I have heard from digital in the past was gone. With the Pontus DAC, there was an overall “oneness” to the sound with the cohesive decay characteristics that I hear in vinyl. It was well organized, and I found myself getting into the music. I also quickly noticed the sense of space that digital usually lacks.

Hearing the Micro Details

For the most part, the Pontus DAC retrieves micro details that are usually lost in digital. And most importantly, as the music rises and falls in complexity, the Pontus maintains its composure. One of the issues with current production DACs that has always stood out to me is that as the complexity of the music increases, the sound becomes less musical. As the music becomes more strident and less relaxed and tenser, and I find myself tending to listen to simple music like solo vocals and small quartets.

Eagle-eyed readers will note my reference to “current production DACs” in the previous paragraph.  I injected this because I have heard this “calm” before in digital. Back in 2013, I wrote a piece about a John Wright modified Museatex DA44. I powered it with an AGM Gel car battery, and it exhibited a similar calm. This was the first time I heard this “calm” in a digital source, albeit to a lesser degree. Fast forward 7 years and the Denafrips Pontus has taken this calm to a new level. It has better frequency extremes, dynamics, and low-level resolution than my battery-powered DA44. At the same time, it also maintains some of the attributes I hear in vinyl.

What is Denafrips’ Secret Sauce?

I could not find any information on the website that addressed the analog output stage design. Obviously, the secret sauce is a mixture of several things. I specifically quizzed Alvin Chee, owner of Vinshine Audio, the global distributor for Dinafrips, about the design of the analog output stage. In the past, I found that this stage has a large impact on how the DAC is voiced. So, I wanted to understand what they were doing in that area.

In response, Alvin offered the following explanation of the design that, up until now, has never been released.

  1. The DENAFRIPS DAC modules are composed of two complete DACs with the same structures in parallel, which are responsible for converting the entire signal waveform. The difference is that the two DACs use a differential DC voltage with opposite polarity and the same-rated DC voltage to allow the two DACs, to work in different conditions. The zero-crossing point is different as well.

    The first advantage of this design is that it greatly weakens the influence of the zero-crossing point, and the second is that it mitigates the stringent consistency requirements of the DAC modules of the traditional design for the positive and negative polarities. The distortion caused by the asymmetry of the positive and negative half-waves due to poor consistency, typically, the traditional way is to solve the zero-crossing problem, but this may just create another zero-crossing problem.

    The method we use is to average all the distortions and spread them across the entire frequency band. The advantage of this is that the THD measurement is slightly higher, but the digital noise caused by the conversion is very low, and the sound is noticeably significantly better.
  2. The core conversion switch is a logic gate circuit switch. The advantage of this is that the PCB footprint of the conversion core is greatly reduced, hence, shortening the signal path.

    The core conversion stage directly outputs the voltage signal. There is no I/V conversion at the output stage. The disadvantage of this is that the distortion is slightly larger than the current output methodology. However, the advantage is that there is no need for an I/V conversion link, and the signal path is further shortened, and the sound is more vivid and pleasant.
  3. Our DAC design philosophy puts the measurement in second priority and sound perception and quality in the first priority. Distortion is no longer the main factor affecting the sound. We believe that the THD distortion at less than 0.003% has almost no effect on the sound perception, excessive pursuit of low distortion may have an adverse effect on the sound. We reduce the excessive digital edges caused by digital conversion under the premise that distortion guideline that does not affect the sense of hearing, so that the resultant sound quality, is smooth, and analog-like.

My Take Aways on the Pontus DAC

My take aways from Alvin’s explanation is as follows:

  1. There is no better sounding analog output stage than NO additional analog output/buffer stage.
  2. The analog output voltage derives directly from the core conversion. In essence, they are trading slightly higher distortion for the elimination of an entire gain stage and its associated sonic fingerprint. If that is one of the things responsible for the sound quality I am hearing, then kudos to them.  

Room for Improvement?

All that being said, there is room to improve the Pontus DAC. The transparency of the leading edge of the music could be better. The notes sound ever so slightly like they have been “sanded,” like the sharp wide open transparent edge has been smoothed just a hair. Come to think of it, the leading edge of notes sounds a lot like vinyl sounds when the VTA on your cartridge setup is just a hair off from being dialed in.

The Pontas DAC’s bass was detailed and exceptionally powerful in the range of 30-80hz. However, it lacked a bit of authority in the under 30hz range. And while the soundstage had admirable width, the depth, while better than most digital, could be better. It lacked that ability to feel like you can look around the instrument. Dynamic contrast could also have more range.

Denafrips, I suspect, has addressed these reviewer points in the models at the upper end of their product line. I intend to find out and have asked Alvin to let me review an upper-level model in the future. Once I’ve heard it, I look forward to reporting back to you.

In the meantime, bear in mind reviewers tend to magnify small differences and shortcomings we detect. Non-reviewers were gobsmacked when they heard the Pontus DAC in my room. They immediately wanted to buy one to replace their existing DACs.

To Oversample or Not to Oversample

I personally preferred the non-oversampling (NOS) mode. I typically do not like oversampling, and the Pontus DAC, with its excellent sound quality, not only reinforced that conclusion but clarified it for me.

Some may feel the oversampling mode exhibits more detail. What I think they are actually hearing is a timing problem induced by oversampling. The issue is that high-frequency harmonics are arriving out of time with the fundamentals. I find this manifests itself as “detail” and eventually becomes tedious to listen to in the long run.

Just Right

In this review, I did my listening in the NOS mode. Also, I do not have any DSD files. I confined my listening to ripped CDs and streaming services through my Aurender and Innuos server/streamers.

So, is the Denafrips Pontus an end game in DACs? Does it sound like vinyl?  The answer to both of these questions is of course not. But what it also does not sound like is digital as I have come to know it up to now.

Anyway, I am not sure I would want it to sound EXACTLY like vinyl. Vinyl has its own set of issues. What I would like is the best of both worlds, and this is where I think the Denafrips design is headed.

One of my associates, after hearing the Pontus DAC, offered up the following designation. He called it “The Goldilocks DAC”. It’s not too analog, and it’s not too digital. It is, well, you get it, “just right”. I have to agree. It strikes a very nice balance between the two technologies.

Final Thoughts

So what we have here in the form of the Denafrips Pontus is an excellent DAC that moves digital sound forward and does not have the usual bevy of digital warts. It breaks some of the long-standing digital barriers that have kept me from fully engaging with digital music.  It is at a reasonable price point (by audio standards) and, based on construction and parts alone, represents a tremendous value. Now throw in the sound quality that I experienced, and I can’t think of a better value in a DAC today.

Denafrips executed this product beautifully and backed it with a 3-year warranty. They are also an extremely responsive company. Mark my words, Denafrips is a company you need to keep your eye on.

After my time with the Pontus DAC, I feel that Denafrips has issued me an “invitation to listen” to digitally encoded music. I think I will accept it. You should consider it also.

Highly recommended!

12 thoughts on “Review: Listening to the Denafrips Pontus DAC”

  1. Thank you for your detailed review. I’m currently listening to a Denafrips Ares II loaned to me by a friend. It’s easy to listen to, but still conveys a good amount of detail and resolution. The Denafrips DACs do seem to share a family resemblance in their sound signature. One of the first words that came to mind for me when listening to the Ares was also a sense of calm.

    I’m considering whether to get an Ares II or the Pontus. Any thoughts between the two?

    1. Jeff…. Thanks for following The Audio Beatnik. By all means if you can reach for the Pontus you will not regret it. The Ares II is a very nice entry to the Denafrips sound but these later production Pontus units are in another class with a good bit of “trickle down” technology
      from the Terminator. If you like what you are hearing from your friends Ares II, then you will really enjoy how the Pontus takes that sound to the next level. Thanks again and keep listening!! Ken

    2. I own both and I must say they are both great just a bit different. I mean your getting the idea of R2R flavors but one is just giving you a bit more refinement, mind you that doesn’t mean that one is better then the other just different. Food for thought ? considering one is almost twice the cost. Let’s just say I could definitely Live and be very happy with the Ares II.

      1. Yes indeed Steven…. Both are quality products. and while I did ultimately prefer the Pontus II, as with most things in high performance audio, twice the price does not translate to twice the performance. The Aries II sets a high bar for its price point and the Pontus II builds on that. Ultimately, system synergy will play a large role in determining if the Pontus II is worthy of the extra cost.

  2. Thanks for the review. You seem to be reviewing lots of interesting products lately!
    I want to buy a new dac and was thinking about the Merason Frerot. But you seem to be somewhat more enthusiastic about the Pontus. Would you say that the Pontus is a real upgrade from the Frerot, or are they fairly similar?

    1. Greetings Anton… Unfortunately, I have not yet heard the Merason Frerot DAC in my system yet so I can’t offer a first hand comparison.
      I will be hearing some of the Merason offerings in 2021 and I will be sure to contrast them to the Pontus. As you know, Jack was able to review the Frerot DAC in an earlier review. I will say we do have similar listening styles so each of our reviews should offer some insight. Keep listening !! Ken

  3. Hi Ken,
    What do you think about Terminator or Terminator Plus. Are they worth 2-3 X the price ? What would you recommend to use for a pre amp just to get volume control because 2 V would drive my Mitner mono blocks MTR101 . Are there any superior quality attenuators to skip the Pre-amps, or are there any descent pre amps that you would recommend to simplify the process. Are Denafrips pre-amps any good? You mentioned DA44.Nice statement. I know John, very nice and smart guy. He done awesome job modifying my mono blocks.

    1. Greetings Jan and thanks for following The Audio Beatnik.
      As I mentioned in the review , I plan to investigate the Terminator and Terminator Plus in upcoming reviews in early 2021 , so I can’t offer an opinion just yet. Stay tuned..
      I have no doubt they will improve on the already excellent sound of the current Pontus offering. I have not heard the Denafrips Preamps yet but they are also on my 2021 list.
      So many products to review …so little time.
      In preparation for my upcoming review on the Pure Audio Project Treo Classics 15 and the PS Audio Steller M1200 mononblocks, I am listening to the Luminous Audio Axiom II Walker version passive preamp and had excellent results with this component. Be aware that Passive line stages are always subject to system synergy and the ability of the source unit to “drive” the amp. When they work they are outstanding. Your John Wright modified Meitner Monoblocks are excellent amps and I would suggest you check with John about using a passive linestage with them. You are in good hands with his advice. If you would like to discuss this further, feel free to contact me at ken@theaudiobeatnik.com.
      And thanks again for following The Audio Beatnik.

  4. Hello Ken from Singapore

    Very interesting to see your observations on the Pontus. What caught my attention was the feet on the Pontus. I am guessing it’s your after market feet? If yes did you get a chance to compare both? And can you also share what feet it is?

    1. The feet shown in the pictures are from the stock pictures that Denafrips provides. Those feet do not come on the component as shipped. I did try some aftermarket feet
      and, as usual, the results are different with each brand. Hard devices like Stillpoints “tighten the sound and focus”. Lossy feet like the IsoAcoustics seem to
      calm down the sound and throw a larger soundstage. When I am setting up a system, I use isolation devices like “seasoning” in a Gumbo. They allow me to “season the sound to taste”

    1. I have not heard the Audio GD HE MKII but I have a lot of respect for the designer, Kingwa and his designs.
      I would expect it to be a DAC that will compete at a very high level. I am hoping to secure one to audition later this year.
      Thanks for reading The Beatnik. Ken

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